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The article is not a research one, but a top 10 list of things that happened in the year, and the one paragraph at best supports the use of the word intimidation. The third citation is to, a pop culture website that is also not a reliable source. In fact, it provides considerable evidence that Benjamin explicitly did not intend to harass. That citation does not support that there was a targeted harassment campaign. The next source is the Daily Dot, a website devoted to internet culture. Polygon's article is brutal, partisan, and filled with factual errors, but it still doesn't support the language that what Benjamin did at VidCon was a targeted harassment campaign. It only makes its extraordinary claim in a background section of the article which is directly sourced to Polygon, a video game website.

Furthermore, the article itself starts off by saying that Patreon looked into charges of harassment and found that Benjamin didn't break the rules. This is not a reliable source, and seeing as it is dedicated to social justice and progressive politics, it shouldn't be used to make an extraordinary claim like this one. Regarding the attribution of motives, it seems that we have a Mic article as the first attribution. I am willing to AGF, but I'm very worried. It seems that there have been lots of editors who have come and made similar points as mine with sources, and that a small number of editors have resisted the changes without much reasoning that I would categorize as substantive. PeterTheFourth ( talk) 03:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC) Reply I must say, I wish I hadn't gone into the archives. It's a fairly mooted point, so you may want to start an RfC or something if you insist on dragging it up again so we can have some semblance of permanency to the consensus. Grayfell ( talk) 01:02, 13 February 2019 (UTC) Reply Here are a few of the other discussions of this phrasing which have resulted in the content being kept in the article. If you can think of a way of properly contextualizing this, propose it, but rehashing the same stale talking points won't get you very far, so review the archives first, please. Removing sourced content because some editors don't believe it's fair isn't neutral. Accuracy is fair, so this accurate, sourced description is fair. It is perfectly possible for something to be harassment and intimidation and engagement and trolling. Sources support that this was a targeted harassment campaign. Reply This has been discussed multiple times. We still mention 'harassment' twice later, and 'intimidation' and 'hostile environment' LedRush ( talk) 12:03, 11 February 2019 (UTC). If we delete the part about a targeted harassment campaign the passages loses almost nothing. Finally, I think the above 2 points could amount to a BLP violation. Third, when we talk about the investigation into harassment, it doesn't conclude that there was harassment. I don't think it is fair that we have gone to the worst description. Some say harassment, some say intimidation, some say engagement, some say trolling, some say distasteful. Second, difference sources (in the current article) have characterized what happened differently. I don't believe it's a violation, but it is lazy. First, it is almost a complete rip from the first cite. I feel that 'as part of a targeted harassment campaign against her' is problematic for several reasons. The article currently reads 'A group of YouTubers who had frequently criticised Sarkeesian in the past, including Benjamin, coordinated to fill the first three rows of half the audience and film Sarkeesian as part of a targeted harassment campaign against her.' 34 Jess Phillips Laughing at male suicideĪttributing motives to Benjamin at VidCon.31 'It was unclear what Benjamin's comments referred to'.29 Protected edit request on 1 June 2019.23 Reliable source for coverage of campaign being dominated by rape joke.17 additional comments about raping Jess Phillips.

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16 Full quote regarding Jess Phillips at UKIP Conference.

15 Fixing the grammar in the second sentence.

14 It's disingenuous to label him anti-feminist in this way.13 Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on.11 Why is this man using a traditional Assyrian/Mesopotamian name?.6 Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2019.4 Richard Spencer's opinion on Benjamin.2 The 'quote' from The Daily Dot article.1 Attributing motives to Benjamin at VidCon.